Çözüldü Pro2000 Mavi Ekran Hatası 0x00000101 ve STOP: 0x00000124

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Pro2000 PROG7250 markalı bir bilgisayar aldım. Vatan bilgisayardan aldığımda ilk olarak restleme yapıyordu, servise gitti değiştirdiler ürünü. Sonrasında gelen üründe aynı sıkıntı bu, ek olarak da mavi ekran hatası veriyor. Aşağıda mavi ekranı çekip verdim. Tabi bu süre sarfında da bizim bilgisayar 15 günü geçti servislerde ve değişim ve iade süresi doldu. Mahkemeye verecem ama makineye güvenmediğim için bilirkişi de yapmaz diye korkuyorum. Neyse bu konuda yardımlarınız bekliyorum.



Bilgisayarın Özellikleri :


  • Marka : PRO2000
  • Model : PRO2000 G serisi 7250
  • Kod : PROG7250
  • İşlemci : AMD FX-6100 X6 3.3 GHz 14 MB AM3 + 95 W
  • Anakart : MSI AMD SOKET AM3 + 760 DDR3
  • Bellek : 2 X 4096 MB DDR3 1333 MHZ
  • Hardisk : 500 GB Serial ATA
  • Ekran Kartı : nVİDIA GT 220 1 GB DDR3 128 BİT
  • İşletim Sistemi : WİNDOWS 7 HOME PREMİUM 64 BİT ORJİNAL

Yaptığım İşlemler :
1- Powerını değiştirdim sorun devam etti.
2- Hard diskini değiştirdim başka bir hardiskle sorun devam etti.
3- Ekran kartını değiştirdim sorun devam etti.
4- BIOS güncelemesi yapıldı, ekran karı dahil hepsinin güncellemeleri yapıldı, sorun devam etti.
5- İşlemci fanı değişti sorun devam etti. Şu anki çalışma kapasitesi 3294 olarak görünüyor BIOS'da.
6- Isı dereceleri gayet normal. 32 derece bile mavi ekran veriyor. Ayrıca voltaj değeri 14.305 ile 14.035 arasında değişiyor
7- Formatta attım 2 -3 kere.

Arkadaşlar tek yapmadığım elimde olmayan sadece anakart ile işlemcileri değiştiremedim. Anakart ve işlemci alacam yanlız tekrar aynı hatayı verir diye çekiniyorum. Boşuna para vermek istemiyorum. Sizin bu konu hakkında fikir ve düşüncelerinizi bekliyorum arkadaşlar. Daha başka ne yapmam gerek.
 
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Çok büyük ihtimalle belleklerin bozuk. Memtest +86' ile bir kontrol et. Mümkünse C>Windows>minidump'ta ki dosyaları bizimle paylaş.

İndirmeyi yaptım ama nasıl yapacağımı ayrıntılı olarak yazarsanız sevinirim. Resim olsa daha süper olur, bir de dediğiniz dosyaları nasıl paylaşacağım sizinle ? Onu da söylerseniz, paylaşırım yapamadım.
 
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Off, abi sen dakka başı mavi ekran almışsın. Bilgisayarı nasıl kırıp atmadın :)


Kod:
A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to prevent damage
to your computer.


The problem seems to be caused by the following file: hal.dll






If this is the first time you've seen this stop error screen,
restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow
these steps:


Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed.
If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer
for any Windows updates you might need.


If problems continue, disable or remove any newly installed hardware
or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing.
If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components, restart
your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup Options, and then
select Safe Mode.


Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** hal.dll - Address 0xfffff8000321ea56 base at 0xfffff8000321a000 DateStamp 
0x4eb4c7f6

Kod:
A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to prevent damage
to your computer.


The problem seems to be caused by the following file: nvlddmkm.sys






If this is the first time you've seen this stop error screen,
restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow
these steps:


Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed.
If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer
for any Windows updates you might need.


If problems continue, disable or remove any newly installed hardware
or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing.
If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components, restart
your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup Options, and then
select Safe Mode.


Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** nvlddmkm.sys - Address 0xfffff88008121e8f base at 0xfffff8800804e000 DateStamp 
0x50b97852

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** nvlddmkm.sys - Address 0xfffff880131a7e9c base at 0xfffff880130b2000 DateStamp 
0x506b3099

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880030a5180, 
0x0000000000000005)


*** nvlddmkm.sys - Address 0xfffff88013109007 base at 0xfffff88013024000 DateStamp 
0x506b3099

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** nvlddmkm.sys - Address 0xfffff880131a0cb1 base at 0xfffff880130ab000 DateStamp 
0x506b3099

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** nvlddmkm.sys - Address 0xfffff880132ff007 base at 0xfffff8801321a000 DateStamp 
0x506b3099

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** nvlddmkm.sys - Address 0xfffff880131dacb1 base at 0xfffff880130e5000 DateStamp 
0x506b3099

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** nvlddmkm.sys - Address 0xfffff8801320bf18 base at 0xfffff8801306e000 DateStamp 
0x506b3099

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** nvlddmkm.sys - Address 0xfffff88013144f1e base at 0xfffff8801304f000 DateStamp 
0x506b3099

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** nvlddmkm.sys - Address 0xfffff88008143e8f base at 0xfffff88008070000 DateStamp 
0x50b97852

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** nvlddmkm.sys - Address 0xfffff88008181271 base at 0xfffff8800809e000 DateStamp 
0x50b97852

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** nvlddmkm.sys - Address 0xfffff880080f2e8f base at 0xfffff8800801f000 DateStamp 
0x50b97852

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** nvlddmkm.sys - Address 0xfffff880049c0449 base at 0xfffff880048dd000 DateStamp 
0x50b97852

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** nvlddmkm.sys - Address 0xfffff88008166449 base at 0xfffff88008083000 DateStamp 
0x50b97852

Kod:
A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to prevent damage
to your computer.


The problem seems to be caused by the following file: ntoskrnl.exe






If this is the first time you've seen this stop error screen,
restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow
these steps:


Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed.
If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer
for any Windows updates you might need.


If problems continue, disable or remove any newly installed hardware
or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing.
If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components, restart
your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup Options, and then
select Safe Mode.


Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xfffffa80084b18f8, 0x0000000000000000, 
0x0000000000000000)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff8000371010c base at 0xfffff8000325f000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800032dacc0 base at 0xfffff8000325e000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xfffffa80081678f8, 0x0000000000000000, 
0x0000000000000000)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff8000370f10c base at 0xfffff8000325e000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb







Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800032d3cc0 base at 0xfffff80003257000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800032cdcc0 base at 0xfffff80003251000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb



Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xfffffa80081b78f8, 0x0000000000000000, 
0x0000000000000000)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800036c010c base at 0xfffff8000320f000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xfffffa8008146788, 0x0000000000000000, 
0x0000000000000000)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800036c810c base at 0xfffff80003217000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xfffffa80081ab038, 0x0000000000000000, 
0x0000000000000000)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800036fc10c base at 0xfffff8000324b000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb


Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800032ddcc0 base at 0xfffff80003261000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xfffffa800810c8f8, 0x0000000000000000, 
0x0000000000000000)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800036c910c base at 0xfffff80003218000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb


Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff80003290cc0 base at 0xfffff80003214000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xfffffa80081b18f8, 0x0000000000000000, 
0x0000000000000000)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800036c510c base at 0xfffff80003214000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb


Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xfffffa800817f038, 0x0000000000000000, 
0x0000000000000000)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff8000371010c base at 0xfffff8000325f000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xfffffa800814a038, 0x0000000000000000, 
0x0000000000000000)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800036b410c base at 0xfffff80003203000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb
Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880030a5180, 
0x0000000000000005)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800032cfcc0 base at 0xfffff80003253000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff80003295cc0 base at 0xfffff80003219000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff8000328fcc0 base at 0xfffff80003213000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xfffffa80080da038, 0x0000000000000000, 
0x0000000000000000)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff8000370810c base at 0xfffff80003257000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb


Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xfffffa80081478f8, 0x0000000000000000, 
0x0000000000000000)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800036ca10c base at 0xfffff80003219000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800032cbcc0 base at 0xfffff8000324f000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880030a5180, 
0x0000000000000005)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800032e3cc0 base at 0xfffff80003267000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800032cbcc0 base at 0xfffff8000324f000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb


Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff80003290cc0 base at 0xfffff80003214000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800032d0cc0 base at 0xfffff80003254000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff80003297cc0 base at 0xfffff8000321b000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800030cccc0 base at 0xfffff80003050000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb
Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880030a5180, 
0x0000000000000005)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff8000307dcc0 base at 0xfffff80003001000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800030d9cc0 base at 0xfffff8000305d000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb


Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff80003081cc0 base at 0xfffff80003005000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xfffffa8008178788, 0x0000000000000000, 
0x0000000000000000)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800034be10c base at 0xfffff8000300d000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xfffffa8008230038, 0x0000000000000000, 
0x0000000000000000)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff8000350710c base at 0xfffff80003056000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff80003087cc0 base at 0xfffff8000300b000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff80003089cc0 base at 0xfffff8000300d000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0xfffff800030c9cc0 base at 0xfffff8000304d000 DateStamp 
0x4f2cfefb

Kod:
A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to prevent damage
to your computer.


The problem seems to be caused by the following file: Ntfs.sys






If this is the first time you've seen this stop error screen,
restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow
these steps:


Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed.
If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer
for any Windows updates you might need.


If problems continue, disable or remove any newly installed hardware
or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing.
If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components, restart
your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup Options, and then
select Safe Mode.


Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** Ntfs.sys - Address 0xfffff8800143399b base at 0xfffff88001426000 DateStamp 
0x4efd3525

Kod:
A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to prevent damage
to your computer.


The problem seems to be caused by the following file: atapi.sys






If this is the first time you've seen this stop error screen,
restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow
these steps:


Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed.
If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer
for any Windows updates you might need.


If problems continue, disable or remove any newly installed hardware
or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing.
If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components, restart
your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup Options, and then
select Safe Mode.


Technical Information:


*** STOP: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000021, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff880009b3180, 
0x0000000000000004)


*** atapi.sys - Address 0xfffff88000e97b7b base at 0xfffff88000e95000 DateStamp 
0x4a5bc113

Bu raporlardan anladığım kadarıyla büyük ihtimalle ekran kartınız bozuk gibi. Öneriler arasında BIOS'tan C1E Enhanced halt State'i devre dışı bırakmak da var.

Sen yine de en güncel ekran kartı sürücüsünü kur ve bize bildir durumu. Kurulum esnasında temiz kurulumu seç.
 
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Bu raporlardan anladığım kadarıyla büyük ihtimalle ekran kartınız bozuk gibi. Öneriler arasında BIOS'tan C1E Enhanced halt State'i devre dışı bırakmak da var.

Sen yine de en güncel ekran kartı sürücüsünü kur ve bize bildir durumu. Kurulum esnasında temiz kurulumu seç.

Kardeşim aynen öyle kafayı yemek üzereyim, bulunduğum yerdeki bilgisayarcılar bir çare bulamadı. Yeni bilgisayar toplamaya kalkıyorlar, bana da ekran kartı bozuk gibime geliyor ama çıkardığımda veriyor aynı ekranı. Onboard çalışmasına rağmen RAM testlerini yaptım sıkıntı olmadı hiç. Kırmızı çıkmadı dediğiniz işlemi de deneyeceğim ama söylediğim şekilde veriyor, ne yapmamız gerekiyor ? Onboard olarak çalıştırdığımda da verdi.
 
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Aynı sorunu YouTube'da yaşayan bir kullanıcı işlemciyi değiştirmiş. Ekran kartında sorun yoksa o zaman işlemciyi değiştirmeniz gerek. Bu bilgisayarı iade edin...

Anladığıma göre durumun pekte iyi değil. Yol yakınken servise gidip anlat durumu. Tüketici heyetine gidip dilekçe yaz. O zaman geri cevap vermek zorunda Vatan.
 
Aynı sorunu YouTube'da yaşayan bir kullanıcı işlemciyi değiştirmiş. Ekran kartında sorun yoksa o zaman işlemciyi değiştirmeniz gerek. Bu bilgisayarı iade edin...

Elimizde 15 yakın servis raporu var bunlardan 6 tanesi İstanbuld'aki pro2000 servisinden geldi, sisteminizde hiçbir problem yoktur diye. Vatan servisinde ise sadece format atıyorlar ve sisteminiz virüslüymüş diyorlar ve geri veriyor. Bir de tüketici heyeti de 1000 TL'yi geçtiği için bakmıyor, mahkemeye vermemiz gerekiyor. Yanlız makineye güvenmediğim için de bilirkişinin önünde yapmaz diye endişeleniyorum. Bunun kesin neden yaptığını anlayabilirsem veya anlatabilirsem o şekilde olacak iade işlemi başka türlü zor görünüyor. Bana bir akıl verin arkadaşlar hayatımda bu 3. makinem diğer ikisini arkadaşla beraber toplamıştık. Arkadaşın tayini çıkınca ben bu sefer kendim aldım ama aldığım güne lanet olsun böyle bir şey olamaz ......

VATAN DEĞİL Mİ BİR DAHA ÖNÜNDEN GEÇMİYORUM.
 
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Uyarı! Bu konu 13 yıl önce açıldı.
Muhtemelen daha fazla tartışma gerekli değildir ki bu durumda yeni bir konu başlatmayı öneririz. Eğer yine de cevabınızın gerekli olduğunu düşünüyorsanız buna rağmen cevap verebilirsiniz.

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